okay just a quickie

Most of my posts either exist in a condition of pre-natal bliss or have been consumed by the evil trolls (not hobbits) that characterize the black and bleeding heart of Typepad.  So, I'll piss out some fluff and leave it at that.

Vatican takes years to say the same goddamned thing.

My favorite gems?

Such men can't be priests because they are in a situation that "gravely hinders them from relating correctly to men and women," it says.

But it distinguishes such men from others with homosexual tendencies "that were only the expression of a transitory problem — for example, that of an adolescence not yet superseded."

"Nevertheless, such tendencies must be clearly overcome at least three years before ordination to the diaconate," it says.

First of all, I fail to see how priests of any stripe, gay or not, relate "correctly" to men and women - especially given the whole chastity thing.  Explain to me how being gay is going to make you less able to relate to "men and women" than being unable to relate to "men and women" having SEX?  Frankly, most of my gay friends have a better perspective on what it is to be a man or woman than your average fucking hetero.

SECOND of all, you simpering papal wankers, don't you see how this gives buggery-prone future priests a big goddamned loophole?  "Hm, I think I'd like to join up with God's team... and there's this sweet three year gay clause in the contract - I'm going to Embers!"  I mean, seriously.  Transitory?  Really?  Has the last three decades of research in sexuality simply passed these people by?  Um...

Anyway... whatever.  I give up.  What choice do I have in the face of such overwhelming power?

HTM

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[comandante agi t. prop]

Ah, HTM! For a second there I thought all six of us had coalesced back into one singular being simply known as "the defeatists".

I love the Vatican's three year rule. How did they decide that after three years of celibacy a homosexual is no longer "instrincally evil"? Maybe the Vatican subsidizes heterosexual re-education classes? Hmm.

Priests relate so well to men and women that they are usually in charge of the Church's marriage counseling programs. After all, who knows more about relationships than a celibate guy!

[the quitter]

Has the last three decades of research in sexuality simply passed these people by?

to be blunt, yes. along with the last -however many- decades of science on any given subject from evolution to carbon dating.

what really tickles my noodle is that these folks ("believers") just ignore bits and pieces of science and select other bits which are based on the same principles as long as they don't interfere with their superstition (wow, that's a crummy run-on sentence).

how can they believe that the avian flu can mutate into a human carried virus when they do not believe in evolution. how can they justify believing in the use of DNA to convict (or release) criminals? if science is so suspect?

silly, ain't it?

[the quitter]

coalesce like brundlefly?
http://fusionanomaly.net/jeffgoldblumthefly.jpg

[mr fun]

well, they are trying to explain away homosexuality using soft science. hehe, soft science. I wonder if they know it's call that.

http://www.exodus-international.org/testimonials_left_homosexuality_42.shtml

[Crusader AXE of the Lost Causes]

I actually kind of get this. They're fucking idiots.

Especially about fucking. Read Jimmy Breslin's book, The Church that Forgot Christ. I find this riff absurd - the issue had to do with pedophiles...

A Lawyer of my acquaintance and patronage told me about his realization that gay-ness was not a choice. His best friend in law school was gay; over too many beers one night he said, "Choice? I"m an idiot, right! I chose a sexual orientation that some states make illegal, my family is ashamed off, that makes people giggle at me, that can cost me a job and, oh yeah, if I'm not really careful can get me killed if I go to the wrong place. Yeah, choice..." Then he threw up.