We can't even steal good ideas...

Turns out that a special interrogation course was set up for the Gitmo stuff...hot stuff on how to use techniques. Unfortuantely, the stuff was nonsense, cribbed from a 1957 Air Force study on how the Red Menace had interrogated US prisoners to obtain confessions. False confessions. Absurd lies. Total nonsense.  If they think they got quality crap from this and that the "terrorists" turned over critical information, then guys like McCain and Stockdale obviously broke. Both of these genuine heroes admitted that they talked...babbling largely bullshit until such time as anything they might have known was irrelevant. You're dealing with lies here...layers of lies.

The recycled chart is the latest and most vivid evidence of the way Communist interrogation methods that the United States long described as torture became the basis for interrogations both by the military at the base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and by the Central Intelligence Agency.

Twitshit? Dick? Can I talk to you confidentially for a moment? Just one American citizen to a couple of employees? One patriot to...well, I'm not sure. One soldier to a couple of genuine...wannabes? If it was torture when the Vietnamese and the North Koreans and the Chinese did it to our folks who'd babble crap to get them to stop, it's torture when we do it. Worse, we have no excuse, oh advocates of the Judeo-Christian, faith-based way. Do you think any rendition of the biblical Christ would countenance what you've done? Here's the point -- remember Pinochet? Know how Kissinger can't travel to a lot of foreign countries because they'll arrest him for War Crimes? I recommend that you restrict your post-election travels to places that are down with torture and don't care about the Geneva Conventions. Myanamr is supposed to be nice. Saudi will work, until their people overthrow them. Since Kim Jung Il has joined the Khaddafis of the terrorist axis evil nonsensical empire, I think Pyongyang would be cool. Well, actually, it's probably cold. No US embassy, but the beloved leader would probably love to put you up...maybe in the downtown Hotel that they never finished because it would fall down. Seems they built it out of concrete with no structural steel or framework. Kim Il Song though it would be a great idea, so they tried...kind of like your stewardship over the United States and its affairs. You guys had a lot of great fucking ideas, none of which worked, and all of which are coming back to haunt us. Congratulations. You've fucked the country up more than Jimmy Carter ever thought of, and you've dragged the flag and the nation into mud. History may judge Carter better than we do, although no one except, well, you twits can deny that he is an honorable and moral man. But, we will be hard pressed to judge you guys harsher than history...

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[uncle buck]

AXE: I'm starting to forget a lot of things, recent history being one of them. Could you give us a brief rundown of how Carter's Administration fucked up the country?
I recall the Olympic boycott, their arming our enemie's enemy with stingers;
and his allowing the Shah into this country - which pretty much sealed the fate of the Embassy hostages. Was SALTII on his watch?
Good posting...

[Crusader AXE]

Basically, he made the world safe for cardigan sweaters. Carter is an object lesson for whomever is elected this year...when the chickens coming home to roost start looking like pterodactyls, it may be the better part of valor to let the other guy have the honor.

[uncle buck]

AXE: thanks for that.
Mind if I borrow your line: "he made the world safe for cardigan sweaters"?
I have a family reunion coming up. Will go over big in some quaters.